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Potential Bottleneck??

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Hello guys I've been looking around the form for some time and was hoping I could get a conclusive answer to "Will it Bottleneck" 

 

Current specs are stock Gtx 770m SLI (had previous minor OC)

I7-4700mq with unparked cores rampped up a slight bit in boost 3.5ghz. 

 

what I essentially want to do is take my graphics card to 1082mhz after flashing Vbios but what I fear is that it'll all be done in vain, 

does anyone have any experience with the Gtx 770m and 4700mq to discuss potential bottle necking? my reference (Post/topic) which

discusses OC'ing the 770m does not get into detail on that aspect. 

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Sorry, I forgot to mention I will be using Intel Extreme tuning utility to max out my cores so AFTER that I'm wondering if the bottleneck is possible? my cores have quite a bit more to give as my utilization is pretty low when gaming so I know some processors aren't fully being utilized. 

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Howdy,

 Please take this reply with due amount of salt... I'm a desktop type.

 I'm basing my RE off my #2 rig, FX-8120 which your i7-4700 can probably mop floor with, hands down. Currently a solo OC 290x but used to push 2x heavily OC 7950s. Upper end 280x range. Never had a "bottleneck" issue.

 IMO, that i7 should be fully capable of outpacing 770Ms. All day. *As long as your system is configured right. And your power brick has enough umph.

 Let me know how it goes. I'm new here and haven't figured out how to fully use site. Feel free to PM me.

 

          SP

 

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I would say that the bottleneck wouldn't be that big, considering it's the mq, and two 770Ms will provide enough power for at least 60 FPS in a lot of games I would figure. I'm sure you'll get bottlenecks above that that are cpu-based. So OC forever man! Let that system run as fast as it can!

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On 6/15/2019 at 1:47 AM, stretchyplastic said:

Howdy,

 Please take this reply with due amount of salt... I'm a desktop type.

 I'm basing my RE off my #2 rig, FX-8120 which your i7-4700 can probably mop floor with, hands down. Currently a solo OC 290x but used to push 2x heavily OC 7950s. Upper end 280x range. Never had a "bottleneck" issue.

 IMO, that i7 should be fully capable of outpacing 770Ms. All day. *As long as your system is configured right. And your power brick has enough umph.

 Let me know how it goes. I'm new here and haven't figured out how to fully use site. Feel free to PM me.

 

          SP

 

Thanks for the reply! I haven't put my setup against much to compare unless directly in regards to an Upgrade. You make me feel a bit more secure about a proper OC for the 770ms with that said I am intrigued with "as long as your system is configured right" I also have the standard power prick but the power delivery is supposed to be more than enough and I always run in Performance mode giving optimal power. 


A little results thus far (limited reporting) - So I OC'ed the 4700mq and launched BF4 and hell if you'd guess but there it was still prevalent STUTTERING despite me decreasing my monitors resolution to 1280x720, my cpu usage only hovering in the 50's of usage temp around the 70's - 80 deg my 770ms aren't being pushed heavily as well with me placing a FPS limit of 100 so it completely baffles me how I can be getting over 200 frames on low in some areas yet the game stutters so heavily to the point its pointless to play competitively or with a desire to actually enjoy yourself.

 

Last hope is the GFX OC with the Vbios flash unless someone tells me something I'm missing. 

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On 6/15/2019 at 2:39 AM, LeviK said:

I would say that the bottleneck wouldn't be that big, considering it's the mq, and two 770Ms will provide enough power for at least 60 FPS in a lot of games I would figure. I'm sure you'll get bottlenecks above that that are cpu-based. So OC forever man! Let that system run as fast as it can!

 

So you're saying a bottleneck WOULD be present going much beyond 60fps? I have my monitor OC'ed as well to 90hz, 100hz, 110hz, and lastly 120hz using various resolutions along with the refresh rates ( of course this initially started with me testing my Alienware 18's limits) so with that said technically when playing my frames still don't take any crazy hits with a couple of drops but nothing below 90 (which was why i first started using 90hz monitor OC before I was able to squeeze out some more FPS) 

 

So may you please emphasis what you're suggesting? should I expect a bottleneck trying to play beyond a cap of 60fps? because I have had the stutters when capped at 60 as well and I could use the extra 30hz+ refresh rate OC to my monitor. This all started when I came home after leaving my laptop on to some random a** windows 10 update that completely changed the way I would use my laptop since! 

 

My alienware 18 no longer has ANY control over previous Alienware custom settings... my laptop is LOCKED to the color scheme I setup right before that destroyer of a "Update" I desperately need help! 

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It depends on the games you're playing and the settings. There's no real way to tell how bad it will be. Battlefield 4 was a game I really struggled with in terms of stutter. After replacing literally every piece of the machine(Desktop), 4 years ago), I found my display was the reason for stuttering, ended up buying the one of the first g-sync panels they sold, and that fixed my issues. So it may be deeper than you think. Could also be power limit throttling if you see low cpu usage and performance, but theres no way to know yet, we'd need you to tell us more info about tdp usage in the 4700mq as well as the clocks it turbos to.

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On 6/18/2019 at 10:53 AM, LeviK said:

It depends on the games you're playing and the settings. There's no real way to tell how bad it will be. Battlefield 4 was a game I really struggled with in terms of stutter. After replacing literally every piece of the machine(Desktop), 4 years ago), I found my display was the reason for stuttering, ended up buying the one of the first g-sync panels they sold, and that fixed my issues. So it may be deeper than you think. Could also be power limit throttling if you see low cpu usage and performance, but theres no way to know yet, we'd need you to tell us more info about tdp usage in the 4700mq as well as the clocks it turbos to.

The game played perfectly fine before Windows 10 creators update so I doubt its any of that. 

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Bottleneck is possible, but you can turn down the settings a little and there will definitely be no problem. Flashing the vbios can be risky - I bricked the laptop Im using right now and it had no integrated graphics. Fun. I spent hours trying to figure out how to save it.

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if you really want to know if there is a bottleneck ,like exactly ,run a game in window mode and run gpuz and be viewing the sensor tab look at the "perfcapreason"  it will tell you , but my opinion and gut feeling the bottleneck is ether power , temps or throttling 

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