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46 minutes ago, Prema said:

 

OK received these pads from frozencpu.com and should have listened to others advise and not have ordered from them.

 

They sent me the 11w/mk version of the the 1.5mm pads instead of the 17w/mk we paid for and instead of the 3mm pads they sent 2mm twice...great! :(

 

Asusparts.eu sent me the wrong Delta FANs as well, so that project is cancelled as well.

Hope to see at least my 70 bucks back...

 

The Everki Titan Trolley that I got is also DOA and came with both wheels broken... :(

 

Is there anybody in this world still capable of doing things right? 

Very, very rare to find vendors that care or do things right. Same for employees.

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OK at least the Everki Service is outstanding and they are sending a replacement Trolley overnight as I will be between Taxi, Bus, Train and airports for the rest of the week...

 

ALSO RECEIVED A FULL REFUND FROM ASUSPARTS.EU AND THEY ARE CHECKING THEIR STOCK TO AVOID FUTURE MIX-UPS FOR OTHER CUSTOMER!
Now I just need to find the Delta GPU FAN somewhere while on the go...
 
Waiting on reply from frozen CPU...

 

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10 hours ago, Prema said:

 

Is there anybody in this world still capable of doing things right? 

 

OK received these pads from frozencpu.com and should have listened to others advise and not have ordered from them.

 

They sent me the 11w/mk version of the the 1.5mm pads instead of the 17w/mk we paid for and instead of the 3mm pads they sent 2mm twice...great! :(

 

Asusparts.eu sent me the wrong Delta FANs as well, so that project is cancelled as well.

Hope to see at least my 70 bucks back...

EDIT 2: RECEIVED A FULL REFUND AND THEY ARE CHECKING THEIR STOCK TO AVOID FUTURE MIX-UPS FOR OTHER CUSTOMER!
Now I just need to find the Delta GPU FAN somewhere while on the go...

 

The Everki Titan Trolley that I got is also DOA and came with both wheels broken... :(

 

EDIT: OK at least the Everki Service is outstanding and they are sending a replacement Trolley overnight as I will be between Taxi, Bus, Train and airports for the rest of the week...

 

 

That is seriously disappointing , specially getting the wrong Thermal Pads. 

The online buying experience these days has become entirely hit or miss. 

I'm about to make a big purchase from Performance PCS , hope it goes smoothly.

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So it's official. The new bios files i received from sager do in fact fix the throttling issue!


1.05.02 Bios
1.05.04 EC

Thanks @Mr. Fox for testing!

It's definitely working... no CPU throttling with GPU load. See images of 3DMark 11 run with stock GPU clocks below for proof.
Note: It is not Sager-branded and FN+D+Power does not clear NVRAM.

 

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Here is the stock Clevo BIOS/EC combo that works correctly. Thanks to Brother @johnksss for help me get this sorted with the correct stock firmware while the @Prema BIOS is pending development.

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On 9/19/2016 at 7:14 PM, octiceps said:

 

Great minds think alike. :D

 

@Mr. Fox

 

Wow, those frame rates are incredibly high. I remember first running 3dm11 on a GTX 460 and hardly ever seeing over 20 fps.

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4 minutes ago, Khenglish said:

 

@Mr. Fox

 

Wow, those frame rates are incredibly high. I remember first running 3dm11 on a GTX 460 and hardly ever seeing over 20 fps.

Yes, pretty sweet aren't they? And, that is stock GPU clocks and stock vBIOS as well. Overclocking with a @Prema vBIOS is going to be insane, LOL.

 

With +140 core and +400 memory in 3DMark 11 Test #1 we see 270+ FPS, Test #2 330+ FPS and Test #3 400+ FPS. 

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so looking at getting a new 870dm2 from HID and was looking but cant find much info, has there been a prema mod release for the 10xx series gpu systems yet or no?

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50 minutes ago, Mechcondrid said:

so looking at getting a new 870dm2 from HID and was looking but cant find much info, has there been a prema mod release for the 10xx series gpu systems yet or no?

Not yet, but should not be too much longer. Go ahead and jump on it... should not need to wait very long for it.

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On 11/7/2016 at 5:09 AM, Prema said:

OK at least the Everki Service is outstanding and they are sending a replacement Trolley overnight as I will be between Taxi, Bus, Train and airports for the rest of the week...

 

ALSO RECEIVED A FULL REFUND FROM ASUSPARTS.EU AND THEY ARE CHECKING THEIR STOCK TO AVOID FUTURE MIX-UPS FOR OTHER CUSTOMER!
Now I just need to find the Delta GPU FAN somewhere while on the go...
 
Waiting on reply from frozen CPU...

 

for the delta fan if you have the manufacturer's part numbers your best bet is a components supplier like mouser.com or digikey.com both these sites have global shipping / warehouses and mouser in particular is very good and will (if you dont have a part number) go and try to identify the part numbers if you send them some pics of the part or if you dont have it send them the specs (dimensions, voltages, connectors, etc etc.)

also very reasonable on prices for most things

 

on a side note who would you guys say is better to buy a 870dm2 from? HID, xotic, or someone else? xotic offers the 3k lcd on the dm3 with all the same other options as hid but total with a spare batt is $2482.23 to HID's $2509 for a dm2 with 4k lcd or $2351 with a 1080 LCD all other specs the same and no spare batt

only reason i'm not going with xotic is i cant find if they do the prema bios or not (does that matter?)

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11 minutes ago, Mechcondrid said:

for the delta fan if you have the manufacturer's part numbers your best bet is a components supplier like mouser.com or digikey.com both these sites have global shipping / warehouses and mouser in particular is very good and will (if you dont have a part number) go and try to identify the part numbers if you send them some pics of the part or if you dont have it send them the specs (dimensions, voltages, connectors, etc etc.)

also very reasonable on prices for most things

 

on a side note who would you guys say is better to buy a 870dm2 from? HID, xotic, or someone else? xotic offers the 3k lcd on the dm3 with all the same other options as hid but total with a spare batt is $2482.23 to HID's $2509 for a dm2 with 4k lcd or $2351 with a 1080 LCD all other specs the same and no spare batt

only reason i'm not going with xotic is i cant find if they do the prema bios or not (does that matter?)

Mouser is very good, I agree.

 

Yes, @Prema BIOS matters. It is huge. In fact, his firmware mods are the only reason I have not abandoned laptops completely. Don't buy a machine from anyone that is not a PremaMod partner shop.  If you don't have access to Prema BIOS and vBIOS, just build a desktop and forget about anything except a cheap notebook that you can toss into a dumpster when it stops working. 

 

Here is the list of partner shops: https://biosmods.wordpress.com/partner/

 

Careful on the 4K screen. If you have never owned a 4K laptop there is a chance you will despise it. Some people love it; others hate it. I have used several laptops with 4K screens and you could not give me that option for free. I hate it with a passion. If you haven't owned or used one before, investigate that further with your own eyes over a period of a week or two or you may regret it. Maybe buy something from a place with a liberal return policy, Keep it for a week, then take it back for a refund.

 

Question: Why do you need a spare battery? Did you know the battery cannot be swapped out on most of the newer notebooks, unless you carry a screwdriver with you at all times? On most systems now the battery is under the bottom cover and not travel-friendly. This is the new way of doing things. It sucks, but in most cases you're screwed in terms of swapping it out in 2 seconds like the good old days.

 

 

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oh i know it matters i'm familiar with bios' and firmware modding in general i was more refering to if it matters if the shop lists the prema bios as an option at purchase, or if i can simply get the system from the shop that fits me best cost/warranty/options wise and then just flash the bios and vbios firmwares myself; i'd prefer that as then i could save a fair bit of money and have to put in minimal effort to do so (well minimal effort for me, i've built and worked on plenty of embedded systems so i'm pretty familiar with the whole "chip-world" side of IT for the most part)

and as for the battery i am aware and i was actually planning on doing a 3d scan of the back lid and 3d printing a replacement that has a much easier (and quicker) access method for a battery swap, planning on using some taulman 910 filament: tough as nails stuff (roughly 7500-7600 PSI tensile strength) and very high temp tolerance (prints at 250-255 C) just nearly $40 per half KG reel :o

 so if i get the system from xoticpc can i just grab the bioses and flash the gpu and mainboard myself? or do the firmwares not get released like that? never owned a sager so the whole prema bit is new to me last gaming laptop for the last 4 years has been a upgraded Razer blade pro that i have been very pleased with but is finally aging out of rotation so to speak.

 

oh and i would prefer the 3k honestly as i know what you mean on the 4k screens, they (outside of games) just seem to scrunch up a bit too much for my liking but 3k is actually a pretty decent middle ground for my eyes

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6 hours ago, Mechcondrid said:

 so if i get the system from xoticpc can i just grab the bioses and flash the gpu and mainboard myself? or do the firmwares not get released like that? never owned a sager so the whole prema bit is new to me last gaming laptop for the last 4 years has been a upgraded Razer blade pro that i have been very pleased with but is finally aging out of rotation so to speak.

That's what I am talking about. If you buy the system from a vendor that is not a @Prema partner, then you're not eligible to receive the firmware because it is offered exclusively to those customers. Prema has indicated he will no longer be providing public BIOS mods as he used to. That could change someday, perhaps when a model becomes obsolete, but at this point it would not be smart to plan on having access to the firmware mods it if you buy the machine somewhere else.

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Waiting for bios for my X4E2 (P750DM2-G) :)

btw here is my GTX 1070 render test result. First one is running at stock, limit by vrel. Second is oc +200 +400, limit by power. if I do anything higher than 2100mhz, computer crash immediatly(even 2101mhz)...

Really hope prema vbios can unlock power limit! my current benchmark is already on pair with desktop 1070 oc, but the power limit is so painful lol.

 

FIRST:

        Date        , GPU Core Clock [MHz] , GPU Memory Clock [MHz] , GPU Temperature [癈] , Memory Used [MB] , GPU Load [%] , Memory Controller Load [%] , Video Engine Load [%] , Bus Interface Load [%] , PerfCap Reason [] ,
2016-11-10 12:35:57 ,             1847.5   ,               2003.4   ,               68.0   ,           1318   ,         95   ,                       76   ,                   5   ,                   39   ,               4   ,
2016-11-10 12:35:58 ,             1847.5   ,               2003.4   ,               68.0   ,           1318   ,         91   ,                       74   ,                   5   ,                   41   ,               4   ,
2016-11-10 12:35:59 ,             1847.5   ,               2003.4   ,               68.0   ,           1318   ,         93   ,                       77   ,                   5   ,                   36   ,               4   ,
2016-11-10 12:36:00 ,             1847.5   ,               2003.4   ,               68.0   ,           1320   ,         93   ,                       76   ,                   5   ,                   45   ,               5   ,
2016-11-10 12:36:01 ,             1847.5   ,               2003.4   ,               68.0   ,           1320   ,         93   ,                       74   ,                   5   ,                   40   ,               4   ,
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2016-11-10 12:36:12 ,             1847.5   ,               2003.4   ,               70.0   ,           1332   ,         94   ,                       77   ,                   4   ,                   42   ,               5   ,
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2016-11-10 12:36:37 ,             1835.0   ,               2003.4   ,               73.0   ,           1328   ,         94   ,                       77   ,                   2   ,                   48   ,               4   ,
2016-11-10 12:36:38 ,             1835.0   ,               2003.4   ,               73.0   ,           1328   ,         94   ,                       76   ,                   2   ,                   41   ,               5   ,
2016-11-10 12:36:39 ,             1835.0   ,               2003.4   ,               73.0   ,           1328   ,         95   ,                       79   ,                   3   ,                   43   ,               4   ,
2016-11-10 12:36:40 ,             1835.0   ,               2003.4   ,               73.0   ,           1328   ,         93   ,                       76   ,                   2   ,                   39   ,               4   ,
2016-11-10 12:36:41 ,             1835.0   ,               2003.4   ,               73.0   ,           1328   ,         93   ,                       74   ,                   2   ,                   27   ,               4   ,
2016-11-10 12:36:42 ,             1835.0   ,               2003.4   ,               73.0   ,           1328   ,         92   ,                       75   ,                   1   ,                   47   ,               4   ,
2016-11-10 12:36:43 ,             1835.0   ,               2003.4   ,               73.0   ,           1328   ,         92   ,                       73   ,                   3   ,                   48   ,               4   ,
2016-11-10 12:36:44 ,             1835.0   ,               2003.4   ,               73.0   ,           1328   ,         94   ,                       74   ,                   2   ,                   43   ,               5   ,
2016-11-10 12:36:45 ,             1835.0   ,               2003.4   ,               74.0   ,           1328   ,         94   ,                       78   ,                   2   ,                   47   ,               5   ,
2016-11-10 12:36:46 ,             1835.0   ,               2003.4   ,               74.0   ,           1328   ,         92   ,                       75   ,                   2   ,                   47   ,               4   ,
2016-11-10 12:36:47 ,             1835.0   ,               2003.4   ,               74.0   ,           1328   ,         95   ,                       75   ,                   2   ,                   36   ,               4   ,
2016-11-10 12:36:48 ,             1835.0   ,               2003.4   ,               74.0   ,           1328   ,         94   ,                       77   ,                   3   ,                   36   ,               4   ,
2016-11-10 12:36:49 ,             1835.0   ,               2003.4   ,               74.0   ,           1328   ,         93   ,                       75   ,                   3   ,                   40   ,               4   ,
2016-11-10 12:36:50 ,             1835.0   ,               2003.4   ,               74.0   ,           1328   ,         94   ,                       77   ,                   2   ,                   50   ,               5   ,
2016-11-10 12:36:51 ,             1835.0   ,               2003.4   ,               74.0   ,           1328   ,         94   ,                       76   ,                   5   ,                   54   ,               5   ,
2016-11-10 12:36:52 ,             1835.0   ,               2003.4   ,               74.0   ,           1328   ,         94   ,                       76   ,                   2   ,                   44   ,               4   ,
2016-11-10 12:36:53 ,             1835.0   ,               2003.4   ,               74.0   ,           1328   ,         93   ,                       74   ,                   2   ,                   53   ,               4   ,
2016-11-10 12:36:54 ,             1835.0   ,               2003.4   ,               74.0   ,           1328   ,         93   ,                       75   ,                   2   ,                   49   ,               4   ,
2016-11-10 12:36:55 ,             1835.0   ,               2003.4   ,               74.0   ,           1328   ,         93   ,                       74   ,                   2   ,                   39   ,               4   ,
2016-11-10 12:36:56 ,             1835.0   ,               2003.4   ,               74.0   ,           1328   ,         97   ,                       79   ,                   2   ,                   34   ,               4   ,
2016-11-10 12:36:57 ,             1835.0   ,               2003.4   ,               74.0   ,           1328   ,         95   ,                       75   ,                   2   ,                   43   ,               5   ,
2016-11-10 12:36:58 ,             1835.0   ,               2003.4   ,               75.0   ,           1328   ,         93   ,                       76   ,                   2   ,                   35   ,               5   ,
 

SECOND:

        Date        , GPU Core Clock [MHz] , GPU Memory Clock [MHz] , GPU Temperature [癈] , Memory Used [MB] , GPU Load [%] , Memory Controller Load [%] , Video Engine Load [%] , Bus Interface Load [%] , PerfCap Reason [] ,
2016-11-10 12:39:35 ,             1442.5   ,               2202.2   ,               59.0   ,           1363   ,          3   ,                        3   ,                   5   ,                    0   ,              16   ,
2016-11-10 12:39:36 ,             1442.5   ,               2202.2   ,               59.0   ,           1346   ,          2   ,                        2   ,                   5   ,                    0   ,              16   ,
2016-11-10 12:39:37 ,             1139.0   ,               2202.2   ,               59.0   ,           1346   ,          2   ,                        2   ,                   7   ,                    0   ,              16   ,
2016-11-10 12:39:38 ,             1139.0   ,               2202.2   ,               59.0   ,           1346   ,          2   ,                        2   ,                   7   ,                    0   ,              16   ,
2016-11-10 12:39:40 ,             1139.0   ,               2202.2   ,               59.0   ,           1346   ,          2   ,                        2   ,                   7   ,                    0   ,              16   ,
2016-11-10 12:39:40 ,             1139.0   ,               2202.2   ,               58.0   ,           1346   ,          2   ,                        2   ,                   7   ,                    0   ,              16   ,
2016-11-10 12:39:41 ,             1139.0   ,               2202.2   ,               58.0   ,           1347   ,          2   ,                        2   ,                   7   ,                    0   ,              16   ,
2016-11-10 12:39:42 ,             1139.0   ,               2202.2   ,               58.0   ,           1347   ,          2   ,                        2   ,                   6   ,                    0   ,              16   ,
2016-11-10 12:39:43 ,             2037.5   ,               2202.2   ,               59.0   ,           1366   ,         95   ,                       81   ,                   5   ,                   47   ,              16   ,
2016-11-10 12:39:44 ,             2025.0   ,               2202.2   ,               61.0   ,           1366   ,         95   ,                       77   ,                   4   ,                   50   ,               1   ,
2016-11-10 12:39:45 ,             2025.0   ,               2202.2   ,               61.0   ,           1366   ,         95   ,                       73   ,                   5   ,                   51   ,               1   ,
2016-11-10 12:39:46 ,             2025.0   ,               2202.2   ,               62.0   ,           1366   ,         95   ,                       76   ,                   4   ,                   49   ,              16   ,
2016-11-10 12:39:47 ,             2050.0   ,               2202.2   ,               63.0   ,           1370   ,         94   ,                       76   ,                   4   ,                   38   ,               5   ,
2016-11-10 12:39:48 ,             2037.5   ,               2202.2   ,               63.0   ,           1370   ,         94   ,                       76   ,                   4   ,                   43   ,               1   ,
2016-11-10 12:39:49 ,             2037.5   ,               2202.2   ,               64.0   ,           1370   ,         93   ,                       75   ,                   4   ,                   51   ,              16   ,
2016-11-10 12:39:50 ,             2037.5   ,               2202.2   ,               64.0   ,           1370   ,         94   ,                       77   ,                   4   ,                   42   ,              16   ,
2016-11-10 12:39:51 ,             2050.0   ,               2202.2   ,               65.0   ,           1370   ,         94   ,                       76   ,                   4   ,                   38   ,               5   ,
2016-11-10 12:39:52 ,             2012.0   ,               2202.2   ,               65.0   ,           1370   ,         96   ,                       77   ,                   0   ,                   46   ,              16   ,
2016-11-10 12:39:53 ,             2037.5   ,               2202.2   ,               65.0   ,           1370   ,         95   ,                       77   ,                   4   ,                   47   ,               1   ,
2016-11-10 12:39:54 ,             2012.0   ,               2202.2   ,               66.0   ,           1370   ,         93   ,                       75   ,                   4   ,                   52   ,               1   ,
2016-11-10 12:39:55 ,             2012.0   ,               2202.2   ,               66.0   ,           1366   ,         94   ,                       78   ,                   0   ,                   47   ,               1   ,
2016-11-10 12:39:56 ,             2012.0   ,               2202.2   ,               66.0   ,           1366   ,         95   ,                       80   ,                   4   ,                   35   ,               1   ,
2016-11-10 12:39:57 ,             2012.0   ,               2202.2   ,               66.0   ,           1366   ,         97   ,                       79   ,                   0   ,                   40   ,               1   ,
2016-11-10 12:39:58 ,             1999.5   ,               2202.2   ,               67.0   ,           1366   ,         96   ,                       77   ,                   0   ,                   50   ,              16   ,
2016-11-10 12:40:00 ,             2025.0   ,               2202.2   ,               67.0   ,           1366   ,         94   ,                       76   ,                   4   ,                   48   ,               1   ,
2016-11-10 12:40:00 ,             1999.5   ,               2202.2   ,               67.0   ,           1366   ,         95   ,                       76   ,                   0   ,                   51   ,               1   ,
2016-11-10 12:40:01 ,             1999.5   ,               2202.2   ,               68.0   ,           1366   ,         95   ,                       75   ,                   0   ,                   47   ,              16   ,
2016-11-10 12:40:02 ,             2012.0   ,               2202.2   ,               68.0   ,           1366   ,         94   ,                       73   ,                   0   ,                   41   ,              16   ,
2016-11-10 12:40:03 ,             2012.0   ,               2202.2   ,               68.0   ,           1366   ,         96   ,                       79   ,                   0   ,                   41   ,              16   ,
2016-11-10 12:40:04 ,             2012.0   ,               2202.2   ,               68.0   ,           1366   ,         95   ,                       77   ,                   0   ,                   45   ,               1   ,
2016-11-10 12:40:05 ,             1999.5   ,               2202.2   ,               69.0   ,           1366   ,         94   ,                       76   ,                   0   ,                   62   ,               1   ,
2016-11-10 12:40:06 ,             1999.5   ,               2202.2   ,               69.0   ,           1366   ,         95   ,                       76   ,                   0   ,                   56   ,               1   ,
2016-11-10 12:40:07 ,             1999.5   ,               2202.2   ,               69.0   ,           1366   ,         93   ,                       76   ,                   0   ,                   51   ,              16   ,
2016-11-10 12:40:08 ,             1987.0   ,               2202.2   ,               69.0   ,           1366   ,         95   ,                       74   ,                   2   ,                   50   ,               1   ,
2016-11-10 12:40:09 ,             1999.5   ,               2202.2   ,               69.0   ,           1366   ,         93   ,                       74   ,                   0   ,                   54   ,              16   ,
2016-11-10 12:40:10 ,             1999.5   ,               2202.2   ,               70.0   ,           1366   ,         95   ,                       75   ,                   0   ,                   54   ,              16   ,
2016-11-10 12:40:11 ,             2037.5   ,               2202.2   ,               69.0   ,           1347   ,          1   ,                        2   ,                   0   ,                    0   ,               4   ,
2016-11-10 12:40:12 ,             2037.5   ,               2202.2   ,               68.0   ,           1347   ,          1   ,                        2   ,                   0   ,                    0   ,               4   ,
2016-11-10 12:40:13 ,             2037.5   ,               2202.2   ,               68.0   ,           1347   ,          1   ,                        2   ,                   0   ,                    0   ,               4   ,
2016-11-10 12:40:14 ,             1999.5   ,               2202.2   ,               69.0   ,           1366   ,         96   ,                       78   ,                   0   ,                   48   ,              16   ,
2016-11-10 12:40:15 ,             1999.5   ,               2202.2   ,               69.0   ,           1366   ,         95   ,                       78   ,                   0   ,                   50   ,               1   ,
2016-11-10 12:40:16 ,             2012.0   ,               2202.2   ,               69.0   ,           1366   ,         93   ,                       72   ,                   0   ,                   51   ,               1   ,
2016-11-10 12:40:17 ,             1999.5   ,               2202.2   ,               69.0   ,           1375   ,         94   ,                       76   ,                   0   ,                   48   ,               1   ,
2016-11-10 12:40:18 ,             2012.0   ,               2202.2   ,               70.0   ,           1370   ,         96   ,                       78   ,                   0   ,                   39   ,               1   ,
2016-11-10 12:40:19 ,             2012.0   ,               2202.2   ,               70.0   ,           1370   ,         95   ,                       77   ,                   0   ,                   43   ,               1   ,
2016-11-10 12:40:20 ,             1999.5   ,               2202.2   ,               70.0   ,           1370   ,         95   ,                       76   ,                   4   ,                   52   ,               1   ,
2016-11-10 12:40:21 ,             1999.5   ,               2202.2   ,               70.0   ,           1370   ,         96   ,                       78   ,                   0   ,                   44   ,              16   ,
2016-11-10 12:40:22 ,             2025.0   ,               2202.2   ,               71.0   ,           1370   ,         94   ,                       77   ,                   0   ,                   38   ,               1   ,
2016-11-10 12:40:23 ,             1999.5   ,               2202.2   ,               71.0   ,           1370   ,         95   ,                       78   ,                   0   ,                   46   ,              16   ,
2016-11-10 12:40:24 ,             1987.0   ,               2202.2   ,               71.0   ,           1366   ,         96   ,                       77   ,                   0   ,                   48   ,              16   ,
2016-11-10 12:40:25 ,             1999.5   ,               2202.2   ,               71.0   ,           1366   ,         94   ,                       77   ,                   0   ,                   53   ,               1   ,
2016-11-10 12:40:26 ,             1987.0   ,               2202.2   ,               71.0   ,           1366   ,         96   ,                       78   ,                   0   ,                   47   ,              16   ,
2016-11-10 12:40:27 ,             2012.0   ,               2202.2   ,               71.0   ,           1366   ,         94   ,                       80   ,                   0   ,                   35   ,              16   ,
2016-11-10 12:40:28 ,             1999.5   ,               2202.2   ,               71.0   ,           1366   ,         93   ,                       76   ,                   0   ,                   39   ,              16   ,
2016-11-10 12:40:29 ,             1999.5   ,               2202.2   ,               72.0   ,           1366   ,         93   ,                       75   ,                   0   ,                   49   ,               1   ,
2016-11-10 12:40:30 ,             1987.0   ,               2202.2   ,               72.0   ,           1366   ,         95   ,                       77   ,                   0   ,                   50   ,               1   ,
2016-11-10 12:40:31 ,             1987.0   ,               2202.2   ,               72.0   ,           1366   ,         95   ,                       78   ,                   0   ,                   51   ,               1   ,
2016-11-10 12:40:32 ,             1999.5   ,               2202.2   ,               72.0   ,           1366   ,         96   ,                       76   ,                   0   ,                   48   ,               1   ,
2016-11-10 12:40:33 ,             1999.5   ,               2202.2   ,               72.0   ,           1366   ,         95   ,                       74   ,                   0   ,                   41   ,              16   ,
2016-11-10 12:40:34 ,             1999.5   ,               2202.2   ,               72.0   ,           1366   ,         95   ,                       77   ,                   0   ,                   41   ,               1   ,
2016-11-10 12:40:35 ,             1999.5   ,               2202.2   ,               72.0   ,           1367   ,         95   ,                       77   ,                   0   ,                   45   ,               1   ,
2016-11-10 12:40:36 ,             1987.0   ,               2202.2   ,               73.0   ,           1367   ,         94   ,                       78   ,                   0   ,                   61   ,               1   ,
2016-11-10 12:40:37 ,             1987.0   ,               2202.2   ,               73.0   ,           1367   ,         96   ,                       78   ,                   0   ,                   58   ,               1   ,
2016-11-10 12:40:38 ,             1987.0   ,               2202.2   ,               73.0   ,           1367   ,         96   ,                       79   ,                   0   ,                   54   ,               1   ,
2016-11-10 12:40:39 ,             1974.0   ,               2202.2   ,               73.0   ,           1367   ,         95   ,                       74   ,                   0   ,                   51   ,              16   ,
2016-11-10 12:40:40 ,             1987.0   ,               2202.2   ,               73.0   ,           1367   ,         95   ,                       76   ,                   0   ,                   57   ,               1   ,
2016-11-10 12:40:41 ,             1999.5   ,               2202.2   ,               73.0   ,           1367   ,         95   ,                       76   ,                   0   ,                   52   ,               1   ,
2016-11-10 12:40:42 ,             1999.5   ,               2202.2   ,               73.0   ,           1368   ,         96   ,                       77   ,                   0   ,                   47   ,               1   ,
2016-11-10 12:40:43 ,             1999.5   ,               2202.2   ,               73.0   ,           1368   ,         95   ,                       77   ,                   0   ,                   48   ,               1   ,
2016-11-10 12:40:44 ,             1999.5   ,               2202.2   ,               73.0   ,           1364   ,         94   ,                       75   ,                   4   ,                   40   ,               1   ,
2016-11-10 12:40:45 ,             1987.0   ,               2202.2   ,               73.0   ,           1354   ,         95   ,                       76   ,                   0   ,                   44   ,               1   ,
2016-11-10 12:40:46 ,             1974.0   ,               2202.2   ,               74.0   ,           1355   ,         96   ,                       78   ,                   0   ,                   52   ,              16   ,
2016-11-10 12:40:47 ,             1999.5   ,               2202.2   ,               74.0   ,           1367   ,         96   ,                       78   ,                   4   ,                   47   ,               1   ,
2016-11-10 12:40:48 ,             1999.5   ,               2202.2   ,               74.0   ,           1371   ,         94   ,                       75   ,                   0   ,                   47   ,               1   ,
2016-11-10 12:40:49 ,             1999.5   ,               2202.2   ,               74.0   ,           1371   ,         94   ,                       77   ,                   0   ,                   43   ,               1   ,
2016-11-10 12:40:50 ,             2012.0   ,               2202.2   ,               74.0   ,           1370   ,         94   ,                       77   ,                   0   ,                   37   ,               1   ,
2016-11-10 12:40:51 ,             1974.0   ,               2202.2   ,               74.0   ,           1362   ,         95   ,                       77   ,                   0   ,                   48   ,              16   ,
2016-11-10 12:40:52 ,             1987.0   ,               2202.2   ,               74.0   ,           1362   ,         95   ,                       78   ,                   0   ,                   57   ,               1   ,
2016-11-10 12:40:53 ,             1987.0   ,               2202.2   ,               74.0   ,           1358   ,         96   ,                       78   ,                   0   ,                   59   ,               1   ,
2016-11-10 12:40:54 ,             1987.0   ,               2202.2   ,               74.0   ,           1358   ,         96   ,                       80   ,                   0   ,                   56   ,              16   ,
2016-11-10 12:40:55 ,             1999.5   ,               2202.2   ,               75.0   ,           1358   ,         94   ,                       78   ,                   0   ,                   47   ,               1   ,
2016-11-10 12:40:56 ,             1999.5   ,               2202.2   ,               75.0   ,           1358   ,         94   ,                       75   ,                   0   ,                   48   ,               1   ,
2016-11-10 12:40:57 ,             1974.0   ,               2202.2   ,               75.0   ,           1358   ,         95   ,                       78   ,                   0   ,                   55   ,               1   ,
2016-11-10 12:40:58 ,             2012.0   ,               2202.2   ,               75.0   ,           1358   ,         93   ,                       74   ,                   0   ,                   42   ,               1   ,
2016-11-10 12:40:59 ,             1974.0   ,               2202.2   ,               75.0   ,           1358   ,         95   ,                       76   ,                   0   ,                   47   ,               1   ,
2016-11-10 12:41:00 ,             1999.5   ,               2202.2   ,               75.0   ,           1358   ,         93   ,                       75   ,                   0   ,                   42   ,               1   ,
2016-11-10 12:41:01 ,             1974.0   ,               2202.2   ,               75.0   ,           1359   ,         95   ,                       76   ,                   4   ,                   51   ,              16   ,
2016-11-10 12:41:02 ,             1961.5   ,               2202.2   ,               75.0   ,           1359   ,         95   ,                       74   ,                   4   ,                   44   ,              16   ,
2016-11-10 12:41:03 ,             1974.0   ,               2202.2   ,               75.0   ,           1359   ,         95   ,                       78   ,                   4   ,                   60   ,              16   ,
2016-11-10 12:41:04 ,             1974.0   ,               2202.2   ,               75.0   ,           1359   ,         95   ,                       77   ,                   5   ,                   55   ,              16   ,
2016-11-10 12:41:05 ,             1974.0   ,               2202.2   ,               75.0   ,           1359   ,         96   ,                       78   ,                   4   ,                   52   ,              16   ,
2016-11-10 12:41:06 ,             1974.0   ,               2202.2   ,               76.0   ,           1359   ,         95   ,                       76   ,                   4   ,                   46   ,               1   ,
2016-11-10 12:41:07 ,             1987.0   ,               2202.2   ,               76.0   ,           1359   ,         95   ,                       75   ,                   4   ,                   37   ,               1   ,
2016-11-10 12:41:08 ,             1987.0   ,               2202.2   ,               76.0   ,           1359   ,         95   ,                       77   ,                   5   ,                   38   ,               1   ,
2016-11-10 12:41:09 ,             1987.0   ,               2202.2   ,               76.0   ,           1359   ,         93   ,                       74   ,                   4   ,                   43   ,               1   ,
2016-11-10 12:41:10 ,             1987.0   ,               2202.2   ,               76.0   ,           1359   ,         96   ,                       78   ,                   5   ,                   46   ,               1   ,
2016-11-10 12:41:11 ,             1961.5   ,               2202.2   ,               76.0   ,           1359   ,         95   ,                       75   ,                   4   ,                   55   ,               1   ,
2016-11-10 12:41:12 ,             1974.0   ,               2202.2   ,               76.0   ,           1359   ,         96   ,                       78   ,                   5   ,                   51   ,              16   ,
2016-11-10 12:41:13 ,             1999.5   ,               2202.2   ,               76.0   ,           1359   ,         93   ,                       75   ,                   4   ,                   47   ,               1   ,
2016-11-10 12:41:14 ,             1987.0   ,               2202.2   ,               76.0   ,           1359   ,         95   ,                       75   ,                   5   ,                   52   ,               1   ,
2016-11-10 12:41:15 ,             1974.0   ,               2202.2   ,               76.0   ,           1359   ,         94   ,                       75   ,                   4   ,                   49   ,              16   ,
2016-11-10 12:41:16 ,             1987.0   ,               2202.2   ,               76.0   ,           1359   ,         94   ,                       75   ,                   5   ,                   45   ,               1   ,
2016-11-10 12:41:17 ,             1987.0   ,               2202.2   ,               76.0   ,           1359   ,         94   ,                       75   ,                   4   ,                   49   ,               1   ,
2016-11-10 12:41:18 ,             1974.0   ,               2202.2   ,               76.0   ,           1359   ,         95   ,                       76   ,                   5   ,                   55   ,               1   ,
2016-11-10 12:41:19 ,             1974.0   ,               2202.2   ,               76.0   ,           1359   ,         95   ,                       76   ,                   4   ,                   46   ,              16   ,
2016-11-10 12:41:20 ,             1974.0   ,               2202.2   ,               76.0   ,           1359   ,         95   ,                       76   ,                   5   ,                   54   ,               1   ,
2016-11-10 12:41:21 ,             1987.0   ,               2202.2   ,               77.0   ,           1359   ,         94   ,                       76   ,                   4   ,                   47   ,               1   ,
2016-11-10 12:41:22 ,             1974.0   ,               2202.2   ,               77.0   ,           1359   ,         96   ,                       78   ,                   5   ,                   46   ,              16   ,
2016-11-10 12:41:23 ,             1974.0   ,               2202.2   ,               77.0   ,           1359   ,         96   ,                       77   ,                   4   ,                   43   ,               1   ,
2016-11-10 12:41:24 ,             1974.0   ,               2202.2   ,               77.0   ,           1359   ,         93   ,                       74   ,                   4   ,                   37   ,              16   ,
2016-11-10 12:41:25 ,             1974.0   ,               2202.2   ,               77.0   ,           1359   ,         95   ,                       77   ,                   6   ,                   43   ,              16   ,
2016-11-10 12:41:26 ,             1961.5   ,               2202.2   ,               77.0   ,           1359   ,         95   ,                       78   ,                   5   ,                   51   ,              16   ,
2016-11-10 12:41:27 ,             1949.0   ,               2202.2   ,               77.0   ,           1359   ,         95   ,                       76   ,                   4   ,                   50   ,              16   ,
2016-11-10 12:41:28 ,             1961.5   ,               2202.2   ,               77.0   ,           1359   ,         95   ,                       78   ,                   4   ,                   68   ,              16   ,
2016-11-10 12:41:29 ,             1974.0   ,               2202.2   ,               77.0   ,           1359   ,         95   ,                       73   ,                   5   ,                   56   ,               1   ,
2016-11-10 12:41:30 ,             1987.0   ,               2202.2   ,               77.0   ,           1359   ,         96   ,                       78   ,                   5   ,                   42   ,               1   ,
2016-11-10 12:41:31 ,             1974.0   ,               2202.2   ,               77.0   ,           1359   ,         94   ,                       75   ,                   5   ,                   45   ,              16   ,
2016-11-10 12:41:32 ,             1987.0   ,               2202.2   ,               77.0   ,           1359   ,         93   ,                       75   ,                   5   ,                   46   ,               1   ,
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24 minutes ago, lmybobbob said:

Waiting for bios for my X4E2 (P750DM2-G) :)

btw here is my GTX 1070 render test result. First one is running at stock, limit by vrel. Second is oc +200 +400, limit by power. if I do anything higher than 2100mhz, computer crash immediatly(even 2101mhz)...

Really hope prema vbios can unlock power limit! my current benchmark is already on pair with desktop 1070 oc, but the power limit is so painful lol.

 

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Pascal GPUs are the new kings of throttling hell. I hope @Prema can fix it as well. Besides having his better optimized firmware, we need higher base voltage and a way to effectively use unlocked voltage like Maxwell. These GPUs need to run at full boost under load at all times, locked onto whatever clock speed we choose to apply. Dynamic voltage and clocking are retarded, and always have been. For some crazy reason the NVIDIOTS think this nonsense is a good thing. They've been screwing up their vBIOSes year-over-year for a long time. That part is not a new thing with Pascal.

 

While it is impressively powerful compared to all predecessors the Pascal GPU family is geared for the weekend warrior overclocker with little or no knowledge or experience. Any click-and-run noob can do it with a ho-hum cookie-cutter outcome.

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Hello guys.

can any of you tech-inferno gurus briefly sum up what do we need, to do a maxwell-pascal upgrade?

I'm trying to upgrade 980M to 1060. (the only card that can physically fit in without me cutting hole into chassis.)
(I guess small upgrade is better than nothing.)


So what are the requirements ?

eDP vs LVDS ?
G-sync ?

60Hz LCD panel ?
Is Optimus problem if GPU is not muxed? (I can disable iGPU in BIOS, display port and HDMI is directly connected to dGPU)

Any other ideas what's necessary or what could cause some troubles?
 

 

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57 minutes ago, Mr. Fox said:

Pascal GPUs are the new kings of throttling hell. I hope @Prema can fix it as well. Besides having his better optimized firmware, we need higher base voltage and a way to effectively use unlocked voltage like Maxwell. These GPUs need to run at full boost under load at all times, locked onto whatever clock speed we choose to apply. Dynamic voltage and clocking are retarded, and always have been. For some crazy reason the NVIDIOTS think this nonsense is a good thing. They've been screwing up their vBIOSes year-over-year for a long time. That part is not a new thing with Pascal.

 

While it is impressively powerful compared to all predecessors the Pascal GPU family is geared for the weekend warrior overclocker with little or no knowledge or experience. Any click-and-run noob can do it with a ho-hum cookie-cutter outcome.

yup, I doubt my 1070 is consuming 100W top, I run silent fan profile and it tops at 72C...

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12 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

That's what I am talking about. If you buy the system from a vendor that is not a @Prema partner, then you're not eligible to receive the firmware because it is offered exclusively to those customers. Prema has indicated he will no longer be providing public BIOS mods as he used to. That could change someday, perhaps when a model becomes obsolete, but at this point it would not be smart to plan on having access to the firmware mods it if you buy the machine somewhere else.

ok has he said why he is shifting to that? seems a bit counter productive / intuitive if hes doing this for free or donations? i can understand on limiting the possibility for people to brick their hardware but thats on the person doing the bios flash not prema but not cutting off all access outside of system builder companies, seems a bit excessive in that regard.

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18 minutes ago, Mechcondrid said:

ok has he said why he is shifting to that? seems a bit counter productive / intuitive if hes doing this for free or donations? i can understand on limiting the possibility for people to brick their hardware but thats on the person doing the bios flash not prema but not cutting off all access outside of system builder companies, seems a bit excessive in that regard.

I will let @Prema explain at his convenience, but my impression from our communication (which may not be precise) is it likely has to do with (a) his commitment to his Prema Partner shops to give them something exclusive on new products to make them a compelling offering compared to the ocean full of belly-button Clevo machines that differ only with the boutique's logo; and, (b) people sharing his work freely (including some Clevo resellers that are not Prema Partners) and in particular some dishonest characters taking inappropriate credit for his talent as their own, some even selling it, and never offering anything... no feedback, expressions of thanks or compensation in the form of a donation... in other words, all take and no give as well as "stealing" on top of that. I can tell you that under some circumstances he makes a few exceptions on a selective basis for folks he knows he can trust to keep their promise not re-distribute his work. Some find it easier to make promises than keeping them, so being selective is a necessary evil. Otherwise, it nullifies the validity of reason (a) mentioned above. If the firmware is free for the asking, where is the benefit of being a Prema Partner shop? 

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18 minutes ago, Mr. Fox said:

I will let @Prema explain at his convenience, but my impression from our communication (which may not be precise) is it likely has to do with (a) his commitment to his Prema Partner shops to give them something exclusive on new products to make them a compelling offering compared to the ocean full of belly-button Clevo machines that differ only with the boutique's logo; and, (b) people sharing his work freely (including some Clevo resellers that are not Prema Partners) and in particular some dishonest characters taking inappropriate credit for his talent as their own, some even selling it, and never offering anything... no feedback, expressions of thanks or compensation in the form of a donation... in other words, all take and no give as well as "stealing" on top of that. I can tell you that under some circumstances he makes a few exceptions on a selective basis for folks he knows he can trust to keep their promise not re-distribute his work. Some find it easier to make promises than keeping them, so being selective is a necessary evil. Otherwise, it nullifies the validity of reason (a) mentioned above. If the firmware is free for the asking, where is the benefit of being a Prema Partner shop? 

I agree with the partner thing. Tho it is quite important to make sure public can purchase it (or obtain by donation). The bios will go on some torrent site if people can't obtain it through official channel...

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21 minutes ago, Mr. Fox said:

I will let @Prema explain at his convenience, but my impression from our communication (which may not be precise) is it likely has to do with (a) his commitment to his Prema Partner shops to give them something exclusive on new products to make them a compelling offering compared to the ocean full of belly-button Clevo machines that differ only with the boutique's logo; and, (b) people sharing his work freely (including some Clevo resellers that are not Prema Partners) and in particular some dishonest characters taking inappropriate credit for his talent as their own, some even selling it, and never offering anything... no feedback, expressions of thanks or compensation in the form of a donation... in other words, all take and no give as well as "stealing" on top of that. I can tell you that under some circumstances he makes a few exceptions on a selective basis for folks he knows he can trust to keep their promise not re-distribute his work. Some find it easier to make promises than keeping them, so being selective is a necessary evil. Otherwise, it nullifies the validity of reason (a) mentioned above. If the firmware is free for the asking, where is the benefit of being a Prema Partner shop? 

that's understandable, wasn't aware of all the drama that has apparently happened.

and i had assumed it was free as the prema mod site just had a donation button and the usual "help me help you" type of message and some older downloads so it went along with the usual appearance of the community dev type of website; my bad on that point.

i suppose i can just get the system and then grab the battery and 3k screen at a later date and just install myself (also have the bonus of then having a spare lcd if something bad happens)

 

1 minute ago, lmybobbob said:

I agree with the partner thing. Tho it is quite important to make sure public can purchase it (or obtain by donation). The bios will go on some torrent site if people can't obtain it through official channel...

i also agree with this and in an advantage to prema in this case is he then has a record of who has gotten access to the bios from payment or donation data.

could also (considering the increased functionality the modded bios can enable) charge a pretty decent price for the downloads, to be honest i wouldn't blink an eye at $70 to $85 bucks per bios flavor, hell maybe even $100 in all consideration (but that's me, i know exactly how time consuming it is to both write and modify low-level driver code not even speaking of the bug squashing after each code revision and the different permutations of ways you have to try to get things to break during that)

 

on a related note though in regards to the drama, i would say that (and this may be relevant or not, i've had no interaction with prema before) i would worry about prema getting burned out on dealing with stupid people doing stupid things; i've seen many a great developer burn out on trying to deal with said stupid people's actions. 

 

my uncle said it best in my opinion: "there's 3 constants in this world, that everyone has no option but to live with: death, taxes, and assholes; the first two you can do nothing about but the third only has as much power over you as you give them"

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12 minutes ago, Mechcondrid said:

that's understandable, wasn't aware of all the drama that has apparently happened.

and i had assumed it was free as the prema mod site just had a donation button and the usual "help me help you" type of message and some older downloads so it went along with the usual appearance of the community dev type of website; my bad on that point.

i suppose i can just get the system and then grab the battery and 3k screen at a later date and just install myself (also have the bonus of then having a spare lcd if something bad happens)

 

i also agree with this and in an advantage to prema in this case is he then has a record of who has gotten access to the bios from payment or donation data.

could also (considering the increased functionality the modded bios can enable) charge a pretty decent price for the downloads, to be honest i wouldn't blink an eye at $70 to $85 bucks per bios flavor, hell maybe even $100 in all consideration (but that's me, i know exactly how time consuming it is to both write and modify low-level driver code not even speaking of the bug squashing after each code revision and the different permutations of ways you have to try to get things to break during that)

 

on a related note though in regards to the drama, i would say that (and this may be relevant or not, i've had no interaction with prema before) i would worry about prema getting burned out on dealing with stupid people doing stupid things; i've seen many a great developer burn out on trying to deal with said stupid people's actions. 

 

my uncle said it best in my opinion: "there's 3 constants in this world, that everyone has no option but to live with: death, taxes, and assholes; the first two you can do nothing about but the third only has as much power over you as you give them"

LOL that is very funny ur uncle

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On 11/10/2016 at 3:24 PM, Mechcondrid said:

that's understandable, wasn't aware of all the drama that has apparently happened.

and i had assumed it was free as the prema mod site just had a donation button and the usual "help me help you" type of message and some older downloads so it went along with the usual appearance of the community dev type of website; my bad on that point.

i suppose i can just get the system and then grab the battery and 3k screen at a later date and just install myself (also have the bonus of then having a spare lcd if something bad happens)

 

i also agree with this and in an advantage to prema in this case is he then has a record of who has gotten access to the bios from payment or donation data.

could also (considering the increased functionality the modded bios can enable) charge a pretty decent price for the downloads, to be honest i wouldn't blink an eye at $70 to $85 bucks per bios flavor, hell maybe even $100 in all consideration (but that's me, i know exactly how time consuming it is to both write and modify low-level driver code not even speaking of the bug squashing after each code revision and the different permutations of ways you have to try to get things to break during that)

 

on a related note though in regards to the drama, i would say that (and this may be relevant or not, i've had no interaction with prema before) i would worry about prema getting burned out on dealing with stupid people doing stupid things; i've seen many a great developer burn out on trying to deal with said stupid people's actions. 

 

my uncle said it best in my opinion: "there's 3 constants in this world, that everyone has no option but to live with: death, taxes, and assholes; the first two you can do nothing about but the third only has as much power over you as you give them"

Yes, there has been some drama and very shady shenanigans with @Prema and @svl7 and @Swick1981 firmware mods getting stolen and sold by others, in some cases also misrepresenting themselves as the talent and brains having something to do with those mods. It is amazing how dishonest some people can be, and that really ruins things for the honest people. We have people of the shady caliber to thank for other atrocities, such as DRM filth as well.

 

Your uncle was correct. :D

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7 minutes ago, Mr. Fox said:

Yes, there has been some drama and very shady shenanigans with @Prema and @svl7 and @Swick1981 firmware mods. It is amazing how dishonest some people can be, and that really ruins things for the honest people. We have people of the shady caliber to thank for other atrocities, such as DRM filth as well.

 

Your uncle was correct. :D

ya he was a senior programmer for IBM (hmm may be a pattern there, lol) here in connecticut, you had to be any two of the following to work in programming at ibm: bat shit insane, genius with computers, or great at managing people; i'll let you figure out which combo was the most common (here's a hint: it always included a particular one of these in almost every combo)

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First off - Thanks to Prema I have had my P570wm running a pair of eurocom 980m's in SLI for a while now, and while they cost a good chunk of change and run pretty much everything I throw at them - they are now sadly obsolete :/

 

So in the process of seeing if Clevo vendors have upgrades and shopping around and after configuring a Sky system I noticed that Eurocom is also selling their "Tornado" laptop that appears to support both a 1070 in MXM 3 and the 980m MXM 3.0b .. bios issues aside for just a moment, do I have reason to be optimistic?

 

Does anyone (Prema?) know? 

 

I'm firing off email to the eurocom folks in parallel (though I'm not expecting much more than buy another machine), figured I'd ask here too.

 

dave.

 

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